Two bodies were recovered from the wreckage. The National Transportation Safety Board said the single-engine plane crashed around 9:30 a.m. But it is accidents like this that really perplex me and keep me up at night. (6:43 in the #2 video)If he really did find it, a responsible person who wanted resolution for the pilots and their loved ones would have immediately called the local FSDO and made sure it got turned over by positive handoff. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. The tail plane remained, perhaps, in an out of stall all the way to the ground. This is the type of crash that likely catches LOTS of self-aware pilots' attentionInre your (Winchman's) observation/question noted in the 1st paragraph, writing as a (never-used-for-income) aerospace-engineering-degreed, ~2600-hr glider-only pilot who also 'messed around w. RC gliders', one 'obvious difference' between RC power planes and full-sized ones is what I'll call 'prop-disc-area/mass ratio' differences, with the RC 'ratio' being considerably higher than that for man-carrying (182) equivalents. No matter how much his soul hates the NTSB, only a cruel ghoul would leave the wreck site without making sure the blade got into hands-on possession of the local FSDO. CG was okay. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. Rock was a member of LSU Law Center Board of Trustees, American Board of Trial Advocates and the Louisiana Association for Justice. Flight control cable continuity was established for all flight control surfaces through tensile overload separations in several locations. NORTH PLATTE, Neb. Both Thompson and Alex Kerbow were trained by Palermo to be commercial pilots and flight instructors. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. 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I suggested this in comments a couple of other places, and every time I've gotten ripped on about how wrong I was, and I probably am wrong, but I had a gut feeling about this when I first heard of it, two guys in a modern regular nothing special airplane doing minor training, returning to the airport, aircraft was 4,000 AGL then inexplicably nosedives into the ground, severe clear visibility calm winds, no obvious weather or mechanical reason for the crash. or a practice incipient spin, that got the spin stopped , but the nose did not come up, due to forward c of g? Copyright 2021 KPLC. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. Don is survived by his wife, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, and their two children, Mary Kathryn Clements and William Don Clements. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Johnsons said. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. BATON ROUGE - A man arrested for running Friday PM Forecast: starting weekend cooler then trending warmer. If that happened, NTSB examination of the connection points in the elevator controls for lost fasteners will find one. This plane in a local hangar belonged to Palermo. AD is for problems that showed up on the tail draggers.Models 182 through 182D airplanes have the same tailcone design as Model 185-series tail draggers. I hope the the NTSB will be able to determine a cause other than undetermined loss of control. At the time of his death, Don was a partner in the Global Asset Management Group (Raymond James) in Lake Charles, LA. 7 California, No. Paul Skenes fans a career high 13 in No. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. Other questions:subscriberservices@theadvocate.com. Good point, thanks. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final report has been completed. Detailed metalurgical examination of the two blades and hub for known indicators of overspeed may be able to differentiate loss of blade in normal flight from loss by overspeed. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. The Pulaski County, Arkansas, Sheriff's Office confirmed it had responded at about noon local time. a practice stall , with a forward C of G ? The demonizing of the NTSB over not traveling to this accident included the untruthful claim "I found the missing blade". Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Pallbearers are Todd Ammons, Kirk Clements, Bob Harp, Joseph Pousson, Kevin Robbins, and Henry Riquelmy. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The data showed that the airplane maneuvered near the coast then proceeded north as the altitude and airspeed increased. Probably doing some night flying just to stay current. The report did not identify any witnesses by name. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. Killed in the crash. BATON ROUGE, La. Youll never convince me other than it was a catastrophic failure of the aircraft because Rock knew exactly what to do, said Thompson. Accused murderer cleared by Baton Rouge jury after representing himself in court, released from jail, School accused of ignoring sexual misconduct of student later arrested in high-profile rape case. HACKBERRY, La. The airplane departed from Southland Field Airport (UXL), Sulphur, Louisiana, about 1326 and terminated about 1436. Plane was owned by an aviation company in Sulfur. Winds will ease into the evening. The FAA is proposing this AD to address the unsafe condition on these products.DATES:The FAA must receive comments on this proposed AD by June 29, 2020. Local pilot Steve Thompson admits they may never know due to damage to the aircraft. More controversy for clicks and useful in the relentless vendetta against NTSB. They were aboard a 1979 Cessna 182Q, of which Clements had recently become part owner of. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Prior to his career as a Financial Advisor, Don worked as a trader in the energy business, and as a CPA in a public accounting firm. Copyright 2021 Scripps Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Distance From: 4,325 feet @ 29.9898 -93.3416 Distance To: Wreckage and Impact Information Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est)Calculated Distance Straight line distance: 1.28 miles , 2.07 kilometers (km) , 6785 feet , 2068 meters. 4 LSU women's basketball Watch the 2 Your Health report for Friday, March 3, 2023. ADS-B data 4,325 feet @ Latitude, Longitude: 29.9898 -93.3416Wreckage and Impact Information @Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est)A straight line from Latitude, Longitude: 29.9898 -93.3416 to 30.009412,-93.330048 (est) is calculated @ 1.28 miles , 2.07 kilometers (km) , 6785 feet , 2068 meters. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered." Copyright 2022 KPLC. The engine sustained significant impact damage and was saturated with mud. BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. lol) to give me the answer. He was preceded in death by his father, Richard Don Clements, Sr. but is survived by his mother, Carolyn Joy Templeton Clements and his brother, Kirk Alan Clements, both of whom reside in Denton, Texas. FAA training on proper inspection practices details a disconnected C182 "up" elevator control connection true life incident in this document:https://www.faasafety.gov/files/gslac/courses/content/37/561/ffp.htm. Don was also a proud supporter of the Boy Scouts of America, and especially proud of his son, Will, becoming an Eagle Scout with Troup 5, which is associated with the First United Methodist Church. He's blaming the crash on the theory that the three-bladed prop at idle created a flat disc effect that stopped air flow to the elevator and recovery from a stall.I know about a three-bladed prop having a flat disc effect at low throttle from my experience with giant scale model planes. Just one comment, not trying to be judgmental. There is a long standing agreement between the NTSB and the FAA that the NTSB, because of being short-staffed, has the official authority and do relegate most general aviation accidents solely to the FAA. Authorities first got a call around 5:47 p.m. Tuesday of a plane flying low, then disappearing, Cameron Parish Sheriff Don Johnson said Tuesday evening. When Don wasnt involved in hunting, fishing, and music, he was at home in his beautiful rose garden and vegetable garden, which he nurtured in order to bring fresh roses and vegetables on a regular basis to his beloved wife, Nancy. According to the airplane broker, on the day of the accident the private pilot called to report that he had just completed a 1-hour flight in the accident airplane to satisfy the insurance policy requirements. Unlikely, but it is a possibility. No CFI would loop or allow his student to loop a 182.Not surprised that your "gut feeling" was criticized. The 1972 Puerto Rico DC-7 crash was an aviation accident that occurred on December 31, 1972, in Carolina, Puerto Rico. Got me back to scratching my head. Well I guess everything is possible until we know for sure: suicide, murder, kamikaze, paranormal activity, higher calling, medical, etc. The airplane had high sink rate with a relatively flat attitude (nose close to the horizon). He was a partner in the firm of Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson in Lake Charles, and he was a founding member of the Judge Albert Tate Inn of Court. I need to wait for Dan (you? Another partial owner of the plane told investigators that the pilot had just bought a share of the aircraft and was accumulating flight hours to get rated for complex and high-performance planes, according to the report. In the end, because of the extensive damage it was ruled that it will ultimately remain a mystery on why or how the aircraft lost control. BATON ROUGE, La. There was a problem saving your notification. Dr. Kevin Dupke, the Cameron Parish coroner, said he was at the crash site Wednesday with federal investigators and could not confirm the second mans name. The intentional lie about finding the missing blade showed how little regard for their loss the tuber actually has. It may have required tools to get it out of the ground. Palermo was a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson and was a pilot with the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office. But, if it were to happen that fast, it would be likely that they would have smelled exhaust in time to do something about it. Sheriff Ron Johnson told KPLC that the plane crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed Tuesday night when the small plane they were in crashed in Cameron Parish. "HACKBERRY, La. I had a nearly half-scale Spacewalker that weighed only 25 pounds. While at LSU Law School he was selected to the Moot Court Board. On Feb. 2, 2021, an aircraft went down, killing both men on board, Rock Palermo and Don Clements. Probable causes are generally given in final reports, which can take a year or more. Romanian billionaire Dan Petrescu and his family were killed in . They're not "investigating" anything. Barbe High orchestra plays at Lake Charles Airport, Lake Charles residents concerned about cracked pavement. Was the missing blade buried with the wreckage and not found.. or did the blade fail at 4500 feet and get thrown before the dive? Carbon Monoxide poisoning possibly? well the only thing to attempt if it disconnected is nose up elevator trim, if that is working, but if you are pointed straight down, that might not have enough time to work. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a deal with prosecutors. At impact, the remaining two blades cause the crankshaft to shear aft of the propeller flange. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. whatever you told him to study, he studied it. He could not have been prouder of his children. Don was honored in 2015 as a Duke by the Krewe of Mystique for the many contributions he made to the community. In fact, during his training with Palermo, Kerbow says there was an emergency. Rock Palermo and Don Clements were killed in the crash, Johnson said. They are certain of Palermos ability to handle any emergency. A celebration of Dons life will be held on Saturday, February 6, 2021 at 3:00 PM at First United Methodist Church located at 812 Kirkman Street, Lake Charles, LA 70601. Copyright 2021 KPLC. Palermo was a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson and was a pilot with the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office. Thrown blade and resulting immediate out of balance could have ripped an engine mount, canted the engine in some way creating horrendous aerodynamics and an unrecoverable dive? Watch the 2 Your Health report for Thursday, Watch the 2 Your Health report for Tuesday, Crawfish Tracker: Signs of life (and price drops). He was preceded in death by his father, Joseph R. Palermo, Jr. Rock delighted in all things involving his family. Something dramatic clearly went wrong here. BATON ROUGE - Friday, the LSU Tigers participated in the Podium Challenge, a gymnastics club meet featuring teams from California, Washington and George Washington Universities. Joseph Rock Palermo, III, 55, passed away on February 2, 2021. In lieu of flowers, donation can be made to the music mission at First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles or to a charity of your choice. He is survived by his wife, Nancy, and their children, Mary Kathryn and Will. They are using COVID as an excuse to be LAZY and not work. BATON ROUGE - One week into Lent and the crawfish market is seeing one of its first significant drops of the season. @Trimble - No CFI would roll or allow his student to roll a 182.Your first paragraph seems to be describing a loop, not a roll. Clements, 61, was flying alone from Alberta, Canada, to California on Feb. 22, 2015. The reason for its quick descent, the NTSB said, was. The Cessna 182Q Skylane II tends to glide well all things considered, even if the engine wasn't rotating as in, it'd not tailover like that. The airplane reached about 4,500 ft above ground level (agl), as the airspeed decreased. Hackberry, LA (KPLC) - The National Transportation Safety Board has released the report on its investigation of a deadly plane crash in Hackberry. I have been thinking the same, it's the only thing that makes any sense. My sincere condolences to the families. Also, the known aeronautical capabilities of one of the pilots, a CFI, who was well respected at the sheriff's office as their Chief Pilot do not point to pilot competence issues. That's all!!!! (AP) A pilot and a passenger in a small airplane were killed when the plane crashed in a rural area near North Platte in central Nebraska, officials said. The last 12 seconds of recorded data show the plane made a right turn and descended 3,200 feet leading up to the accident. MOON TOWNSHIP, Pa. Greater Pittsburgh Airport was still considered new when the regularly scheduled TWA Flight 400 crashed on Easter Sunday in 1956. Another owner of the plane flew with Clements and Palermo the day before the accident and didnt report anything of concern. Philip Clements, a 62-year-old Chester Township man, was killed in the crash and was the lone passenger on the plane. But in this case, the airplane attitude was flat with nose close to the horizon, wings level (except for the last turn to the east), all the way to impact. The autopsies of the victims reported the cause of death for both was multiple injuries sustained from the crash. I'd expect the model to be MUCH more sensitive to 'prop-disc-effects' than the man-carrying versionwhich is not to suggest they don't exist for a full-sized C-182. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash and will turn over the investigation to Federal Aviation Administration investigators from Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. In addition to holding the prestigious Certified Financial Planner certificate, Don held advanced designations in the field of retirement income planning, RICP, and retirement plans, CRPC. They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. Would like to ask for a line of discussion about the lack of a mayday call, which hasn't been previously discussed in this thread. The crankshaft sheared aft of the propeller flange. It's their job to travel to accident sites to determine the cause. In a typical configuration, it has 178 seats . On Sept. 10, the plane, a Aerofab Lake LA-4-250, N1401P was found near the . JohnsontoldKPLC-TV that the second occupant, Richard Don Clements, was believed to be a student of Palermos. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. Calcasieu Sheriff Tony Mancuso got emotional while speaking Wednesday morning at a news conference. The engine was unable to rotate through due to the impact damage. No preliminary cause has been given yet, on the deadly plane crash that took the lives of Palermo and Clements. This seems mechanical or structural based on the flight path which, hopefully, NTSB will clear up if so. If so, the wreckage would bear witness to that once the mud is removed. 1 LSU's big win over Butler. Id say he just wasnt able to retrieve from wherever it was. BATON ROUGE - One week into Lent and the crawfish market is seeing one of its first significant drops of the season. Two bodies were removed from the plane that crashed Tuesday evening on a small island near Hackberry, Cameron Parish Sheriff Ron Johnson told news agencies. Mancuso was visibly upset by his passing as spoke to those assembled, "He is one of those people you can't replace.". Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Investigating accidents and making cogent, helpful recommendations is the NTSB's job. As a result of inadequate maintenance, the aircraft's No. The passenger plane with 190 people on board crashed at the Calicut airport in the southern state of Kerala, killing 21 people. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182. Many parts and pieces were left behind at the crash site, including the third blade!! yeah these are the crashes that really bother me --the unknown cause ones .That's when I consider --should I really be flying planes ? BATON ROUGE - A man arrested for running Saturday AM Forecast: Today's weather will be near perfect. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry on Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. That person told investigators he was in the back seat during a training flight on Feb. 1, and the man had done well on flight maneuvers. Like I said, I am a human being. LAKE CHARLES, La. Clemente's plane was allegedly "unfit" to fly. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. he always worked hard. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. The Veron Bice family is saddened by the loss of our founding partner, Rock Palermo. Loss of elevator authority as speed reduced at 4500 feet. But all the groundspeed points at the end are low. The Untold Story of Roberto Clemente's Plane Crash Litigation by John Racanelli January 7, 2014 The Fatal Crash Roberto Clemente was both a remarkable ballplayer and genuine folk hero. He was an FAA licensed Airline Transport Pilot with airplane, jet and helicopter ratings. Single engine, one of the most reliable planes on the planet. In the hours after Nepal's deadliest plane crash for 30 years, a video went viral in India - it showed one of the victims, Sonu Jaiswal, livestreaming from the plane just seconds before the crash. It would recover immediately with added power.I won't go so far as to say he's nailed it as to the cause of this crash, but at least he's not off on some crazy idea. No words exist to describe the void that will be left by Rocks absence. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. This is the perfect weekend to get outdoors! It seems like something major must have gone wrong here. No dive. They were aboard a 1979 Cessna 182Q, of which Clements had recently become part owner of. Observation Facility, Elevation: KLCH,9 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 9 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 4 knots / , 200, Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est). Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. The men say Palermo brought them on board the CPSO Aviation Division and add, they will miss him tremendously. You made some very astute observations focused on elevator issues, compounded by the possible loss of a blade. In the N3RB accident, the tuber wrongly asserted that the pilot murdered a co-pilot.Unfortunately, those enthusiastic followers who ignore the tuber's established pattern of false claims and obvious click baiting don't care about defined NTSB/FAA roles or delegation.The biggest tell of the whole charade is exploitation of the accident victim's loved ones. Providence Sacred Heart Medical Center confirmed that 61-year-old Michael Clements died Tuesday. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. His half scale model Spacewalker needs to weigh 400 lbs in order to replicate prop disc effects faithfully. HACKBERRY, La. I forgot to mention that the model Spacewalker with the three-blade prop would immediately recover and glide normally if I shut the engine off, too. The plane then submerged, he told. Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a deal with prosecutors. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. If they weren't stuck with tunnel vision grip on full aft yoke, they could have pushed forward and added power to get the tail plane flying again and regained control. The plane that crashed Monday was a Boeing 737-800, not the Boeing 737 Max, a newer model that was temporarily grounded worldwide following two deadly crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia. Dr Mary Lou Clements-Mann, epidemiologist and leading researcher on AIDS vaccines, dies with her husband, Dr Jonathan Max Mann, in Swissair plane crash off Nova Scotia; couple were on their way to . Certified flight instructors who own Plane Simple Flight School learned from Palermo. The wreckage was recovered to a secure storage facility where an engine and airframe examination was completed under the supervision of a Federal Aviation Administration inspector. You have permission to edit this article. Makes no sense to claim "non-existent investigation" when the preliminary report describes verification of control continuity by examination for tensile overload separations and a determination of as-found fuel selector position. Both men were well known in Southwest Louisiana and had touched the lives of many. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge.
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